How to Blow Your Engine


Introduction


I have seen a tonne of web pages out there telling you exactly what it takes to make your 3S-GTE powered car fast. You can pretty much follow a few directions listed out for you and reach very respectable power figures. I have decided to take a different route on my web page. Although I have included write-ups on the modifications to my car and the reasons for doing those mods, I think it would be extremely valuable to know what makes these cars blow. So this is my "how-to" on blowing the 3S-GTE.

As a community, I hope that we can use the misfortune of some to benefit others. This sounds bad, but really, I think people need to know what DOESN'T work and why. Hopefully some old myths can be squashed, and people can find that there is a SAFE way to modify your engine, if you know which precautions are important to take.

I have compiled the information submitted by those who have blown their 3SGTE into a chart. This chart lists the cars specs at the time of engine failure. For the time being, I will allow you to draw your own conclusions from this information. Please note that the modifications listed are only those that could be relevant to the engine failure, and the owner may have had additional modifications installed at the time of engine failure as well.

To submit your information for your 3SGTE engine failure, please scroll to the bottom of this page and fill out the form.


Blown Pistons, rings, blocks, HGs, and other fun stuff (21 entries)


Personal Info

Vehicle/Engine Info Modifications Engine Failure Additional Comments
         
Chris Dittrick
www.gtfour.ca
Calgary Alberta
Canada
1988 ST165
1988 gen 1 3SGTE
-
13,000 km (rebuild)
92 octane fuel
14 psi
Stock spark plugs
Rebuilt engine
Ceramic coated pistons
TRD MHG
Straight intake w/ air box
Ported head
50 trim CT26 (no clip)
Ported exhaust manifold
Cracked 3 of 4 piston ring lands, only #2 was blowing through. Compression results: 170/120/160/160. Huge clouds of smoke under acceleration. Perfect idle. Suspected detonation, or lean conditions. Possibly a combination. Stock fuel pump may have given out, or detonation from running 14psi could have caused the problem. At the same time my knock sensor failed, probably from a large amount of knock/det.
Ken Blake
www.koracing.net
Portland Oregon
USA
1993 MR2 T
1993 gen 2 3SGTE
-
101,000 miles
92 octane fuel
21 psi
Denso IK22 plugs
Street Brawler T3/T4 .48 stg3 TO4E-46
KO Exhaust
Intake
Eliza Speed Density conversion
G-Force Techtom ECU
Dual feed rail with 440cc/min inj
SX A-FPR @ 35PSI base pressure
Car would no longer make power was blowing oil out the PCV breather. Compression check yielded 190PSI in 1, 2 and 4, and 130PSI in 3. -
Jay Bemont
Elgin, IL
USA
1992 ST185
1992 gen 2 3SGTE
-
101,000 miles
93 octane fuel
12.5 psi
Plugs: 1 step colder than stock
Bov
Gutted cat
CM stg.3 clutch
Fidanza FW
3ang. Valve job
mild port
greddy bcc
TRD metal hg
K&n filter in stock box
Lost third cylinder ring or ring land. No sign of severe detonation. I am assuming it was detonation, but ring could have just given out due to higher compression. Plugs looked fine, no sign of long time lean condition. 164/165/58/165 compression. I don’t care what anyone says about what is a safe boost level for this car. I think anything over 12psi is bad. Anyone running 15 psi on a stock setup either has a fluke from the factory, or is living on borrowed time. I am 30 years old and have had many tuned cars, and I know when I am abusing my cars, and four runs on a track at 12psi should not cause a condition for a blown cylinder. EGT was never above 1200 degrees F. Ambient intake temp at throttle body was around 110 degrees at time of failure. I don’t think this is high enough to cause bad detonation. Knock sensor code was never thrown.
Aaron Hastings
San Jose California
USA
1995 Celica GT
94-98 gen 3 3sgte
-
101,500 miles
93 octane fuel
15 psi
NGK BCP7E plugs
Haltech E6k
FMIC
Supra TT fuel pump
The engine blew up on the dyno after producing 237 ft.lbs of torque to the wheels. After further inspection it appears that the injector on cylinder 3 was having problems and caused a lean condition blowing a big chunk of the ring land on the piston. If you have a standalone system bump up the injector trims on cylinders 2 and 3 a bit as these cylinders tend to lean out earlier. Never assume an engine is fine when an importer ships it to you. Do a compression test and inspect all ignition AND fuel systems. My mistake was to assume that all the injectors were good before tuning it and doing dyno pulls with it.
Lee Dawes
Australia
94-98 gen 3 3sgte
-
70,000 miles
98 RON fuel
1.3 bar
NGK BKR7E plugs
Motec EMS
Erl water/methanol injection
Blitz air cleaner and decat pipe
Exhaust
Stock internals
Stage 2 CT20B turbo
Broke No3 piston ring lands More than 1.2bar boost on stock pistons ain't good.
Stuart Fraser
UK
Celica ST205
94-98 gen 3 3sgte
-
76,000 miles
98 RON fuel
1.1 bar
Apexi exhaust
Blitz induction
Apexi dump valve
Relief valve
Blown piston ring lands on cylinder three. -
Henry Chan
1badgt4 on Cardomain
oakland, central val, SD
USA
1988 ST165
1988 gen 1 3SGTE
-
91 octane fuel
14 psi
46 trim CT26
K&N intake
3" straight exhuast
Fidanza Flywheel
cold morning run 4th gear 14psi, let off gas, noticed idle @ -10, lots of grey? smoke inside and outside, car still ran. I knew it was missing a cylinder at this time. I pulled over and the whole engine bay was covered by oil, and dip stick popped out. comp test 120, 110, 0, 95. Head is not off, yet. Injectors might have failed with a upgraded 46 trim ct26 and stock fueling.
Peter Davelaar
Holland
1991 MR2 T
1991 gen 2 3SGTE
-
101,600 miles
98 RON fuel
22 psi
NGK spark plugs
Greddy T67, manifold, type R WG Full exhaust w/ WG dump tube
ATS TB Inlet/TB upgrade
ATS 7mm Fuel Rail/FPR upgrade
ARP Head studs
Spearco SMIC
Zeitronix Wideband monitor, egt, boost
RC Eng 550cc injectors
Gen 3 ECU Swap - MAF to MAP conv
Ferrea head kit, valves retainers springs
OEM new HG
Turbo XS type H Bov
MSD spark plug wires
Trueleo Intake Manifold –shortrunner
Gutted T-VIS plate
Id try to make a run at 28 psi, had a lot of knock, and then my pistons where toasted, knock sensor broken - 2 liter of oil lost, and my crankshaft was out of balance. My other failure on the dyno my oem intake manifold was leaking, broken in the left side. I wasnt able anymore to boost, I made 60 rwhp in that run. At this moment my engine is running again, and Ive added 2 HKS 264 cams. My engine was just fully rebuilt, and sounds wonderful till 22psi for almost 600 miles long. 28psi was a little too much, stupid me. The intake manifold failure because I tightened up my TB to the valve cover without the spacers.
Avery
Bay Area, CA
USA
1991 MR2 T
1991 gen 2 3SGTE
-
130,000 miles
91/92 octane fuel
14/15 psi
Copper plugs, one heat range colder
Greddy IC
GForce ECU(basic 92 octane program)
HKS intake
Headgasket failed due to excessive/repeated detonation. On tear down found pitted piston tops, cylinder scores, mild contact on outer crank bearings, cylinders very ovaled. All signs of heavy detonation. I think everyone should know what detonation is and how to identify it quickly before modifying/racing any engine. I was led to believe the intercooler heating up and not cooling the air charge took away enough air density to significantly reduce power(10% or much more). Now I believe, right or wrong, significant loss of power when the intake charge heats up is due to detonation/knock retard. With the mods I had and when California switched over to 91 octane from 92 it was not enough octane to avoid detonation with higher air charge temps. I did not know much about detonation at the time and basically drove it until it broke(overheating from HG failure).
JoShua Fuller
Web Site
Indiana
USA
1991 MR2 T
1991 gen 2 3SGTE
-
80,000 miles
94 octane fuel
20 psi
NGK 6097 plugs
HKS VPC
ApexI safc
550 RC top feed inj
hux top feed fuel rail
SX afpr
6an fuel lines
NOS fuel gauge
Greddy TD06SH-20G turbo upgrade
See website for complete list.
When boosting thru 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gear the car would overheat. Coolant would come out of the overflow. I could drive on the highway or around town and you would never know. Compression was more than acceptable in all cylinders. After eliminating every possible solutions except taking the motor apart I discovered the head gasket had a bend in the metal ring that surrounds the cylinder bores. The top of the block also had pits so that had to eventually come out too. When I bought the car it had hesitation problems and black smoke above the exhasut. If you plan to make more than 250-275 whp then I would suggest buying an ems and expect spending fair amounts of money to make the car run right.
Mike Keck
Las Vegas, NV
USA
1991 MR2 T
1991 gen 2 3SGTE
-
91 octane fuel, 100 when racing
15 psi, 20psi a couple times
Crappy Bosch copper plugs
Rebuilt cylinder head w/ stage 1 port work
HKS metal HG, TVIS removed
TD06sh turbo
Greddy IC
TT Supra Fuel Pump
540cc Blitz injectors
Intake, exhaust
93 TB inlet
stock bottom end
Piston cracked ring land on 15 psi pull. Compression tested at 90 psi. Smoke coming out of breather, heavier smoke while accelerating. I boosted 20 psi twice, only 2nd gear pulls. Well a few weeks later after a 15 psi 2nd gear pull I noticed the cars idle was off. My first thought was a blown engine. Sure enough the #2 cylinder had low compression. I dont know the exact cause of the cracked ring land. Its possible the 20 psi pulls starting the hairline crack, or it just happened on the 15 psi pull, untuned.
Wayne Gregory
UK
1990 ST185
1990 gen 2 3SGTE
-
160,000 miles
6 psi
hks super mega flow induction kit
hks manual vbc
bailey dump valve
hks fcd
At my 1st rolling road, they started running and smoke was coming from my car. I didnt know that my car smoked when driving. engine was gradually reved higher and higher and all the time smoke was pouring from the back of my car. During the main run when turbo was coming on and off, big puffs of blue smoke were coming out the exhaust. When the dv released at very high revs, as it hasnt done it much before, the car was sprayed with oil, and during the rolling road my engine was leaking oil from all over the place, turned out to be pistons and rings had gone. Compression test showed: 1: 11.3bar; 2: 3.2bar; 3: 4.8bar; 4: 11.0bar; as you can see numbers 2 and 3 were knackered, leakdown test showed number 2 was leaking as well, still managed 149.9BHP and 168.1 lb-ft though I had only owned the car for apx 6 months, and had no trouble with it, was pulling hard, accelerating and I had never noticed any smoke from the back, I didnt know there was any problems with it until the rr, most people were very surprised it was still driving. But I used it for weeks after and replaced the engine in the end.
Mina Haroun
Web Site
Miami FL
USA
1994 Celica ST
1994-98 3rd gen 3sgte
-
30,000 miles
93 octane fuel
19 psi
Stock spark plugs
FMIC with EVO 8 core
Greddy Profec B Spec II EBC
SDS EFI 4f Coil system w/ display
Custom 3” Exhaust
HKS SSQ BOV
Halmeter Digital A/F Gauge
Wallbro Supra Fuel Pump
Unorthodox Racing Underdrive Pulley
One cold night my engine overboosted and cracked a ringland. I got a lot of blow-by when I boosted, otherwise the car was fine. I did compression test and it came out fine. I used nothing but shell gas, and that night I added octane booster. Notice - shell gas stations currently have no gas because their gas was found to contain too much sulfate or something. Maybe that was the blame. Also, the car ran fine until I came up against this srt-4, raced, it beat me, I turned up the boost to 17psi, and it finally fried the pistons.
Wayne Gregory
Web Site
UK
1990 ST185
1990-91 2nd gen 3sgte
-
160,000 miles
6 psi
HKS induction kit
HKS manual vbc
Bailey dump valve
HKS fcd
above mods were on at the time
Was at my 1st rolling road. Started running and smoke was coming from my car - I didnt know my car smoked when driving. They were gradually revving higher and higher and all the time smoke was pouring from the back of my car, so during the main run when turbo was coming on and off, big puffs of blue smoke were coming out the exhaust. When the DV released at very high revs, as it hasnt done it much before, the car was sprayed with oil, and during the rolling road my engine was leaking oil from all over the place. Turned out to be pistons and rings had gone. Compression test showed: no 1. 11.3bar; no 2. 3.2bar; no 3. 4.8bar; no 4. 11.0bar; Numbers 2 and 3 were knackered. Leakdown test showed number 2 was leaking aswell. Still managed 149.9BHP and 168.1 LBFT. I had only owned the car for apx 6 months, and had no trouble with it. Was pulling hard, accelerating and I had never noticed any smoke from the back. I didnt know there was any problems with it until the RR. Most people were very surprised it was still driving. I used it for weeks after and replaced the engine in the end.
Jose Correa
Personal Web Site
Puerto Rico
1987 Celica GT-S
1992-93 gen 2 3SGTE
-
60,000 km
93 octane fuel (Shell)
0.7 BAR
Stock spark plugs
Haltech F9
3rd gen 3sgte ct-20 turbine
Greddy profec A
2.5 catback
3sfe metal head gasket (thick)
spearco FMIC
Car lost power, no pinging heard, tested Compression. 180, 80, 180, 180. Ring land damaged Repaired 2 months ago after another piston failure.
Ben Gebrosky
Pittsburgh, PA
USA
1992 Celica GT
1990-91 gen 2 3SGTE
-
100,000 km
94 octane fuel
Stock boost
NGK V-power spark plugs
At the time of the failure, the engine was stock. A cone filter and a 2.5” exhaust was installed. The #4 piston cracked in half, the damage took out the lower two piston rings, completely removed half of the piston skirt, and some stress damage was visible in the ring land area. Compression prior to failure was 65 psi. This may have been caused during shipping of the motor from Japan, the motor never really worked right when I bought it. The engine drove for 30 miles AFTER the piston basically cracked in half (I knew the motor was screwed, so I decided to save on towing costs). Upon tear down, it was discovered that the cylinder bore had no major damage, and the bottom end bearings were surprisingly in good shape considering the amount of scrap metal pulled out of the oil pan and pick-up. The motor was bottle honed, cleaned, and re-assembled with a new piston, it is now running perfectly.
Tristan Hewitt
www.wtfauto.com
Australia
1996 MR2 T
1994-98 gen 3 3SGTE
-
74,000 km
98 octane fuel (RON)
18 psi
HKS Iridium spark plugs
Apexi N1 Exhaust
HKS Power flow filter
MBC
TRD LSD
Melted #4 piston, Cracked ring lands on 2, 3 & 4 Crank pulley outer section slipped in relation to the inner, putting the timing mark off (retarded). I attempted to advance the timing to compensate but took it a bit far and the resulting detonation destroyed the pistons as soon as intercooler temps went up.
Tristan Hewitt
www.wtfauto.com
Australia
1996 MR2 T
1994-98 gen 3 3SGTE
-
90,000 km
98 octane fuel (RON)
20 psi
NGK BCPR6E spark plugs
Apexi N1 Exhaust
Apexi intake filter
MBC
TRD LSD
Apexi AFC
GT30 turbo
Custom manifold
Arias pistons
Eagle rods
Shot peened crank
TTE head gasket
Cracked cyl #2. Sleeved it then cracked cyl #3. sleeved it then re-cracked cyl #2 again. Direct result of high EGTs due to fuel lean out. All caused by lack of fuel delivery (injectors too small).
Tristan Hewitt
www.wtfauto.com
Australia
1996 MR2 T
1994-98 gen 3 3SGTE
-
4,000 km (rebuild)
98 octane fuel (RON)
22 psi
NGK BKR6E spark plugs
Apexi N1 Exhaust
Apexi intake filter
MBC
TRD LSD
Apexi AFC
GT35 turbo
Custom manifold
Tial wastegate
Arias pistons
Eagle rods
Shot peened crank
Stock gen III head gasket
ARP main studs
ARP rod bolts
Clevite bearings
Greddy emanage ECU
HKS fuel rail
Denso 800cc injectors
Cracked Cyl #2...... again. This was a fresh block. Compression was quite simply too high on this motor for the boost I ran. This combined with poor ECU tuning brought out high EGTs again, cracking the cylinder wall.
Josh Bartlett
Sydney
Australia
1988 AW11
1994-98 gen 3 3SGTE
-
50,000 km
98 octane fuel (RON)
8 psi
Platinum spark plugs
3 inch exhaust with stock dump
ST205 intercooler
Failed ring land in number 3 piston. Compression 165-160-85-163. The fuel pump I used when I did the conversion of the 3S into my AW11 was a stock SW20 turbo pump, this pump was lazy and when I boosted it one time the fuel pump made a very bad almost scraping like sound and the engine ran lean for a second or two. -
Bryan "Noshoes" Moore
noshoesspeedworks.com
Va Beach, VA
USA
1991 MR2 (3s-gte Swap)
Gen 2 3SGTE
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See Engine Failure for details on modifications. 1) Summer 1999, USDM 91 3S-GTE w/CT26, 158Kmiles : spun a bearing from running repeated dragstrip runs on low oil.

2) Spring 2001, stock USDM 93 3S-GTE w/CT26 (with cams), 93K miles : ring land destruction on high speed highway run, had swapped in 550s (not needed on CT26) on AFC/VPC combo (too much timing).

3) Summer 2001, stock USDM 91 3S-GTE rebuild w/CT26 (with cams) 123K miles: ring land destruction on high speed highway run, 550s AFC/VPC combo (too much timing).

4) Early Fall 2002, built USDM 93 3S-GTE w/CT20B (15K miles on motor): Popped head gasket on high speed highway run, 550s on AFC/VPC combo (too much timing).

5) Nov 2004, built 93 3S-GTE w/CT20B (19K miles on motor): broke Ferrea valve spring (lack of machining to inner spring seat), spun rod bearing from contaminated oil. Broken bits of valve spring were in pan, ALL bearings werescored and crank was trashed.
I don't bother with the AFC anymore for 2 reasons:

1) It inadvertantly adds timing when you "take out" fuel to compensate for 550s.
2) Any Joe Schmo can operate one. Why in the world should someone fly me across the country to do something they could do themselves?

I _DO_ like the AFC when it is used on the STOCK fuel system, either on the gen2 or gen3. It's awesome for taking out just a few percent to clean up the fuel curve, which also adds just a tad of timing which can be offset with the distributor, or can be compensated with water injection. When used in this manner, the AFC is a very useful tool. Throw in a set of larger injectors while using the AFC to compensate for them, and you end up with a time bomb waiting to happen.

If used with larger injectors, you HAVE to run race gas at higher boost levels. The only reason "HYDE" has lived so long is because Jeff gives it race gas AND water injection to offset the timing increase.

See mr2oc.com thread for further details



Bottom End Failure (11 entries)


Personal Info

Vehicle/Engine Info Modifications Engine Failure Additional Comments
         
Chris Dittrick
www.gtfour.ca
Calgary Alberta
Canada
1988 ST165
1988 gen 1 3SGTE
-
190,000 km
92 octane fuel
Stock boost
Stock spark plugs
No mods at this time Really bad rod knock. Oil drain plug fell out while on the highway. No warning of any oil leaks prior to the event. This one was almost impossible to predict. Keep an eye on your oil level all the time, and make extra sure that drain plug is tight!
James Unger
USA
1988 ST165
90-91 gen 2 3sgte
-
100,000 miles
92 octane fuel
12 psi
HKS 264 cams
Adj. Cam gears
ST205 intercooler with VW Passot radr and 20gpm pump
Adj. FPR
Dual entry fuel rail
t3-t4 46trim
Cam Bucket conversion
Exhaust
Hks fuel cut defencer
I have blown my engine 3 times. Two years ago: oil filter came loose + lost oil and rod bearing. One year ago: installed stock used JDM 185 engthat had bad oil pressure, it also lost a Rod bearing. This year I did a new rebuild. I used ARP head studs and HKS head gasket. I blew the gasket on account of failure to add grease to the threads of the studs. I put grease on the washers and nuts but not the threads. It caused improper torque down. When the gasket blew it sent all the oil in the engine out the blow by tube in just two miles during a rally special stage. Again, I lost a rod bearing. Two of these Blow-ups could have been avoided with just a simple dummy light for loss of oil pressure. I do have a beautiful Auto meter Oil gauge, but I can’t check it often enough while at speed. It probably only takes a few secs at full throttle and 6000rpm. Racing can be expensive...
Stephen Gillies
England UK
1988 ST165
1988 gen 1 3SGTE
-
123,000 miles
98.6 RON fuel
7 psi
One grade colder than stock plugs
Stage one CT26
Fully Reconditioned head
TTE 1.2mm MHG
TTE GRP A Charge Cooler, Wrapped sides and bottom
TTE GRP A Front IC Rad, Spal puller fan
IC Reservoir holding 7L (total 8.7L)
ERL Water/methanol injection 0.5 mm jet
Straight intake with Cone mesh filter
3” exhaust
TRD Engine mounts
205 Gear box 4.285 Final drive
Nasty knock @ 2500 rpm upwards and on cold start up. Drove it for a year like this then dropped the sump. Found badly damaged big end shells, no damage to the crank fitted new end and main bearings. Whilst re-torqueing the N01 end cap I could not obtain the correct torque. Turns out the con rod bolt had stretched causing the demise of No1 Big end bearings only. Fitted new con rod bolt and standard size shells and still going strong 30k miles later. Guess I was lucky. Investigate rattles knocks asap
Malcolm Graham
Auckland
New Zealand
1989 ST185
90-91 gen 2 3sgte
-
200,000 km
98 RON fuel
Stock boost
Nippon Denso
No mods at the time I did an oil change, put in ~3.5L of Mobil 1 5w50, just under full on dipstick. While at the track suddenly the car felt a bit down on power, and there was a knocking noise. Dismantling and inspecting the bottom end showed the #4 con rod bearing was absolutely demolished. There was approx 1L of oil in the sump drained. Carelessly forgot to check oil for a week, when I did there was no oil showing on one side of the dipstick but on the other side it was halfway between F and E so, not wanting to believe that I had gone through 2+ L of oil in a week, decided it must be fine. That night I was racing someone on the motorway, oops...I was 17 back then and notably stupid. Apparently 3SGTE’s prefer to have oil in them, rather than not...
Andrew Mccormack
London UK
86-89 gen 1 3sgte
-
129,000 miles
97 RON fuel
12 psi
NGK BKR7E plugs
dump valve
panel filter
Engine big ends went due to lack of oil. One minute the oil was there and then it all disappeared. I didn’t notice until the knocking started and by then it was too late. I don’t know why the oil went I can only assume the drain plug fell out following an oil change by the Toyota dealership. I now do all my own labour.
Jim Lau
www.jimlau.com
Ann Arbor, MI
USA
1988 ST165
1988 gen 1 3SGTE
-
126,000 miles
91 octane fuel
Stock boost
Stock spark plugs
Aussie 3" downpipe Rod bearing failure. I was on the highway, going about 75-80mph, noticed it smoking black (unburned fuel, possibly from my cracked I/C-Intake tube), so I let in the clutch to slow down and back off the engine. The engine stalled, but I was able to restart it. I had an RPM-related clunk, sounded like from the block. Engine still idled fine. It would stall after running for about 30 secs, and became increasingly hard to restart. After it was towed back to the garage, in the final blast driving it up onto ramps (under its own power), it blew the gasket around the oil filter, and drained it's oil on the floor. Turned out to be a rod bearing failure on cylinder #1. The other bearings were showing some wear as well. I think this is due to lack of proper oil changes. I had not had the car a year at that point, and was unsure of it's history.
Mike
Ontario Canada
1988 ST165
1988 gen 1 3SGTE
-
196,000 km
92 octane fuel
18 psi
NGK iridium plugs
FMIC
t3 .63ar turbo
tial 38mm wastegate
turbo back exhaust
tvis disabled
fuel cut removed
fuel pressure maxed
arp head studs
TRD metal head gasket
Probably shouldn’t have run 18psi on a 190 km engine. It was fine for a couple months on 15psi so I thought I would push it... Spun a rod bearing after running 18psi for about 20 minutes of ’hard’ driving. Right after I changed the oil from regular 10W40 to quaker state semi-synthetic it started smoking, then the bearings in the turbo went, rebuilt that, then ran 18psi and spun bearing. I’ve heard the oil isn’t good on used engines, but whatever. Shouldn’t have run that high boost.
David Garrison
Houston Texas
USA
1995 Celica GT
1995 5S-FE
-
127,000 miles
87 octane fuel
No turbo
Denso platinum plugs
JE Pistons
Total Seal Gapless rings
Bore 1mm over Mild head shave
5SFE rods rod and crank bearings
ARP Head studs
5SFE Toyota metal head gasket
Replaced valve shims
Head cleaned up
Compression 220psi on all cylinders (was 170 before rebuild). Engine rebuilt, after rebuild engine not well. EGR was stuck, fuel filter bad. After those fixed engine ran great during break-in however suddenly lost oil pressure at around 800 miles after rebuild which spun 1 and 2 rod bearings. Since Total Seal gapless rings can take up to 15,000 miles to seat, which I did not know beforehand, during that time the car WILL blow oil past the rings, so have to check it religiously and add oil. This is a 5SFE, rebuilt w/ forged 9.5:1 comp pistons, and is applicable to some high HP 3sgtes so it may be useful. Planned to turbo motor. Once seated, these rings should hold insane amounts of boost. It takes a long time to get there, and you lose oil the whole time. I would have been warned if I had an aftermarket oil pressure gauge. For most people I would strongly recommend using the JE rings, because few of us are going to want to lose oil for up to 15000 miles, so they’re more for an all-out racecar application where you don’t care about losing oil.
Brian Morales
Louisville, KY
USA
1991 MR2 T
1991 gen 2 3SGTE
-
130,000 miles
93 octane fuel
Stock boost
NGK spark plugs
Stock engine Valve cover gasket leaked oil from when I bought the car. It was scheduled to get a refresh, new gaskets and bearings, and a turbo kit soon, so I put off changing it out. At local Auto-X, my friend was without a car, so I let him drive mine. I believe that the hardships of both of us running the car was enough to make it blow enough oil out to starve the pump, which caused the rod bearing to go. -
Scott Heatwole
Fayetteville, NC
USA
1988 ST165
1988 gen 1 3SGTE
-
82,000 miles
93 octane fuel
Stock Boost
Stock spark plugs
Stock Engine Engine Rod extremely scored and broken into 3 separate pieces. A direct result of constant and excessive overrevving. -
Robert Jones
www.celicatech.com
Salt Lake City, UT
USA
1991 MR2 T
1991 gen 2 3SGTE
-
174,000 miles
91 octane fuel
12-14 psi
NGK Copper spark plugs
K&N Air Filter
manual boost controller
gutted downpipe cat
TRD Metal HG.
Not really sure what happened. I was at full boost, top of 2nd gear, around 7k rpms, about to shift, and BOOM. I had full oil, brand new turbo on, and the car had just (about an hour before) passed an anal Utah emissions test. I shattered piston 1, broke the crank journals, busted up the head , bent valves, completely broke one of the valves off, put a hole in EACH side of the engine block, tore up the turbo lines, and ruined the oil pan. Again, I still do not know what caused the failure. I daily drove at around 15 psi for about 2 years, I boosted quite a bit, and I drove the car the way it was meant to be driven I feel. Maybe it was too hard for the mileage.



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Engine Mileage:  km    miles  
Fuel Octane:
Boost Level:
Spark Plugs:

Complete list of modifications (be as specific as possible):

Diagnosis and Comments
What was the engine failure? Please explain in as much detail as possible what went wrong and why. If tested, provide compression results here as well.


Provide any additional comments here. Is there anything else we should know?

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